Trip Checker interview (excerpt)
Leaning back in a patterned brown and orange booth of 246, the new space age arcade of Auckland City, New Zealand, Trip Checker enjoys a prawn cocktail and one of the latest drip percolator style coffees as the shoppers stroll beneath us on the ground floor. A week has passed since his discharge from Auckland Hospital: always bony and unshaven, the gentleman drummer is a little paler than usual. But he has kindly consented to keep the agreed appointment with Jazz Dispatch where we are keen to discuss his latest commercial forays plus rumours of a possible Muse Lounge reunion.
TRIP CHECKER: Is that thing on?
JANWILLEM DORIN: Yes I believe so. In 1969, you -
CHECKER: It's so damn small.
JD: It's one of the latest Japanese products.
CHECKER: And the mike picks up everything I'm saying?
JD: Yes. I was wondering if we could -
CHECKER: I'm hip.
JD: - if we could talk a little about Montreal.
CHECKER: That's a great town.
JD: Yeah?
CHECKER: It's a sweet gig. Yeah, I mean... we'd all meet up there, not in a planned way, you understand, but we'd meet up there see - I'd say to Clive [Janitor] and Elmore [Holdall] "see you at Montree." That was what we called it.
JD: Montree was your name for Montreal.
CHECKER: Swinging. [indistinct] So we'd be hanging around the tent. There were several tents, actually but the main tent you... [indistinct] ...the desk, right? And one of us would say - Elmore, usually, he'd say "let's do a gig." And we just would.
JD: With no rehearsal.
CHECKER: No, no. No rehearsal. Rehearsal's for squares, man! Rehearsal, I mean, hey, like we're not at school, you know? We're not like in class, this is not a class, man. You have to be there. You have to be there.
JD: But you had some sort of tonal framework, I understand -
CHECKER: No framework.
JD: Nothing? You had a scale worked out or something.
CHECKER: We had nothing, man. Nada.
JD: You just went in there?
CHECKER: You got it.
JD: And what if things didn't go as planned?
CHECKER: How could they? We didn't have any plans.
JD: I mean, what if things went wrong?
CHECKER: Then they went wrong. It's like life, you know? Why should Montree be any different?
JD: I think the danger is that the audience could think you were being indulgent.
CHECKER: We were always being indulgent. The only reason anyone ever heard us in the first place is because we decided to indulge ourselves by becoming a band. Everyone's indulging themselves. This interview's indulging you, I'm indulging myself by talking, you're indulging yourself by listening -
JD: Yes -
CHECKER: I mean, it's all indulgent, you know? We're all indulgent.
JD: OK. So, moving along -
CHECKER: I mean just moving along is indulgent. You dig?
Janwillem Dorin
Jazz Dispatch, 1974
Translated from the original by Kirsty Widdell
(First reproduced | Dec 02, 2002)
TRIP CHECKER: Is that thing on?
JANWILLEM DORIN: Yes I believe so. In 1969, you -
CHECKER: It's so damn small.
JD: It's one of the latest Japanese products.
CHECKER: And the mike picks up everything I'm saying?
JD: Yes. I was wondering if we could -
CHECKER: I'm hip.
JD: - if we could talk a little about Montreal.
CHECKER: That's a great town.
JD: Yeah?
CHECKER: It's a sweet gig. Yeah, I mean... we'd all meet up there, not in a planned way, you understand, but we'd meet up there see - I'd say to Clive [Janitor] and Elmore [Holdall] "see you at Montree." That was what we called it.
JD: Montree was your name for Montreal.
CHECKER: Swinging. [indistinct] So we'd be hanging around the tent. There were several tents, actually but the main tent you... [indistinct] ...the desk, right? And one of us would say - Elmore, usually, he'd say "let's do a gig." And we just would.
JD: With no rehearsal.
CHECKER: No, no. No rehearsal. Rehearsal's for squares, man! Rehearsal, I mean, hey, like we're not at school, you know? We're not like in class, this is not a class, man. You have to be there. You have to be there.
JD: But you had some sort of tonal framework, I understand -
CHECKER: No framework.
JD: Nothing? You had a scale worked out or something.
CHECKER: We had nothing, man. Nada.
JD: You just went in there?
CHECKER: You got it.
JD: And what if things didn't go as planned?
CHECKER: How could they? We didn't have any plans.
JD: I mean, what if things went wrong?
CHECKER: Then they went wrong. It's like life, you know? Why should Montree be any different?
JD: I think the danger is that the audience could think you were being indulgent.
CHECKER: We were always being indulgent. The only reason anyone ever heard us in the first place is because we decided to indulge ourselves by becoming a band. Everyone's indulging themselves. This interview's indulging you, I'm indulging myself by talking, you're indulging yourself by listening -
JD: Yes -
CHECKER: I mean, it's all indulgent, you know? We're all indulgent.
JD: OK. So, moving along -
CHECKER: I mean just moving along is indulgent. You dig?
Janwillem Dorin
Jazz Dispatch, 1974
Translated from the original by Kirsty Widdell
(First reproduced | Dec 02, 2002)